Joe Rogan Doesn't Understand Graphs

Special thanks to Andrew Dessler and Zeke Hausfather for their expertise and help on this episode. They have a great climate science Substack called The Climate Brink that you really should check out: https://www.theclimatebrink.com/ 

Amy Westervelt recently released a new podcast series called Carbon Bros, co-hosted with Daniel Penny. It’s a deep dive into the manosphere and how their misinformation is shaping views on the climate crisis, especially young men: https://drilled.media/podcasts/drilled/13/carbon-bros-1 

Sources & Citations

Citations reference first appearance, without repeating for subsequent usage:

• The Joe Rogan Experience: #2254 - Mel Gibson (2025)

• The Washington Post: Scientists have captured Earth’s climate over the last 485 million years. Here’s the surprising place we stand now. (2024)

• The New York Times: Mel Gibson Pleads No Contest to D.U.I. and Gets Probation (2006)

• ABC News: Mel Gibson Addresses Accusations of Anti-Semitism (2006)

• NPR: Apparent Gibson Tapes Reveal Violent, Racist Rants (2010)

• The Hollywood Reporter: Talent agency WME drops Mel Gibson (2010)

• People: Mel Gibson Talks About Turning His Life Around: 'I've Got 10 Years of Sobriety Under My Belt' (2020)

• CBC: Mel Gibson apologizes for 'despicable' remarks during arrest (2006)

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• NASA: Global Temperature (accessed 2025)

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• NASA: This is how Scientists Measure Global Temperature (accessed 2025)

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• Live Science: When were sea levels highest? (2024)

• Our World in Data: There have been five mass extinctions in Earth's history (2022)

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• Columbia Climate School: A Disaster Expert Explains Why the LA Fires Have Been So Catastrophic (2025)

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• CBS News: Most Americans don't earn enough to afford basic costs of living, analysis finds (2025)

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• CNBC: 1 in 5 Americans get their news from social media influencers (2024)

Episode Credits

Creator/Host: Rollie Williams

Writers: Rollie Williams & Matt Nelsen

Director: Matt Nelsen

Editors: Rollie Williams & Laura Conte

Executive Producers: Rollie Williams, Matt Nelsen, Ben Boult, & Daniella Philipson

Cinematography: Ben Boult

Producer: Daniella Philipson

Assistant Editor: Paul Ramsdell

Colorist: Nicholas Lareau

Intro Animator: Ian MK Cessna (https://ianhasawebsite.com/) 

Theme music by: Gratis (https://www.youtube.com/@gratis3241)

Special thanks: Andrew Dessler, Zeke Hausfather, & Amy Westervelt

Special thanks to the Civil Liberties Defense Center (https://cldc.org/) for their continued support.

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